Friday, February 5, 2010

Tuesday Morning at 8 O'clock There Will Be Some Action

[edited 2/6/2010 - SB 6684 is the companion to HB 3027]
Tuesday morning the House Finance Committee will have two bills of interest to vote on in Executive Session. The Safeco Stadium taxes, and the Seattle Hotel tax bills will get a vote, same day, same committee meeting.

These bills would then have to go to the floor for a full House vote.
If the House hotel tax is the same substitute bill, SB 6684 [ed], in the Senate Ways and Means Commttee then there is a dual path, and this house bill will not have to go through the Senate.
The same could be said for HB 2912, though it's partner SB 6661 was referred to the Senate Ways and Means Committed. The bill has yet to show up in it's Electronic Bill Book.

Many of these taxes push control to the local level. A few give shortterm taxing authority and the local control of extending longer.

Finance* -  02/09/10  8:00 am
Full Committee
House Hearing Rm C
John L. O'Brien Building
Olympia, WA
REVISED 2/5/2010 4:05 PM
Public Hearing:  
HB 2756 - Allowing medicare supplement insurance premiums to be deducted from the calculation of disposable income for the purpose of qualifying for senior property tax programs.
HB 2903 - Concerning benefit charges for regional fire protection service authorities. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 2990 - Addressing alternative city assumption and tax authority provisions pertaining to water-sewer districts.
HB 3172 - Concerning the taxation of lodging.
HB 3179 - Revising local excise tax provisions for counties and cities. (If measure is referred to committee.)
Executive Session:  
HB 2402 - Concerning a property tax exemption for property owned by a nonprofit organization and used for the purpose of a farmers market.
HB 2439 - Exempting church property used by a nonprofit organization conducting activities related to a farmers market from property taxation.
HB 2472 - Regarding the sea urchin and sea cucumber license limitation programs.
HB 2537 - Concerning incentives for solar energy systems.
HB 2567 - Concerning the excise taxation of publicly owned facilities accredited by the association of zoos and aquariums.
HB 2672 - Concerning tax relief for aluminum smelters.
HB 2756 - Allowing medicare supplement insurance premiums to be deducted from the calculation of disposable income for the purpose of qualifying for senior property tax programs.
HB 2903 - Concerning benefit charges for regional fire protection service authorities. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 2912
- Modifying local excise taxes in counties that have pledged lodging tax revenues for the payment of bonds prior to June 26, 1975.
HB 2933 - Modifying sales and use tax provisions for the local infrastructure financing tool program.
HB 2984 - Concerning a sales and use tax deferral for performing arts centers.
HB 2990 - Addressing alternative city assumption and tax authority provisions pertaining to water-sewer districts.
HB 3027
- Regarding the governance and financing of the Washington state convention and trade center.
HB 3092 - Allowing the department of revenue to issue a notice of lien to secure payment of delinquent excise taxes in lieu of a warrant.
HB 3172 - Concerning the taxation of lodging.
HB 3179 - Revising local excise tax provisions for counties and cities. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 3127 - Concerning the business and occupation taxation of newspaper-labeled supplements.
HB 3147 - Concerning sales and use tax exemptions for certain equipment and infrastructure contained in data centers.


There are 5 bills that they will take testimony on, and 18 they will vote on in Executive Session. 23 "actions" will be taken in this one meeting (one bill has testimony and a vote). These meetings are often 2 hours long.

It will be like an auction.

In the words of boxing referee Mills Lane, "let's get in on".

[edit 2/6/2010 - in Testimony to the Senate Ways & Means Committee representitives of the hoteliers said, testifying against SB 6118, that the state taking back the 2% salestax credit and then allowing Seattle the authority to add the 2% sales tax on top of the 6+% currently charged would put the fund that maintains the Convention Center at risk, and add more cost on top of very high sales taxes. They urged the committee to not pass SB 6118, as there were negotiations going on with the state to resolve the issue. Hopefully the state will not end up in court.]

6 comments:

Peter said...

so if the bill passes both the senate and the house there is no passing back and forth? is all that will have to happen is gregoire will have to sign it? is it possible for ballmer to go out and get a team this summer if it passes?

Mr Baker said...

If both houses pass identical bills then you have something like SB 6638 from 2008 session:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6638&year=2007

House passed its bill, the Senate passed its bill and then concurred with the House Amendments, done!

This was the "Joint Task Force" bill that was supposed to come up with a plan for these taxes. This was pushed through when the KeyArena bill failed. The Task Force failed to recommend legislation. The individual bills offered last year also failed (see a pattern?).
Here we are again hoping the legislature passes bills to allow the locals to control the taxes their businesses carry on their backs.

I have no idea of what Ballmer will do. The facts are not available to me with his situation. All I know is what Brian posted at SC, and even that was second hand.
My "guess" is that if this legislation passed that owners of teams would be calling him, not the other way around. It is a buyer's market.

I am less concerned with that stuff, though I can not imagine this bill passing without the hoteliers getting something built that supports their business, since that is where the tax is collected at.

Peter said...

"I am less concerned with that stuff, though I can not imagine this bill passing without the hoteliers getting something built that supports their business, since that is where the tax is collected at."

so a key arena renovation would support the hotel business? i doubt husky stadium would because at the most there would be 4 or 5 games a year. key arena would be full or be used most of the year.

Mr Baker said...

The Convention Center hotel taxes and the county-wide stadium hotel taxes are viewed a little differently.

As far as the stadium tax goes, Husky stadium would have to make its case to the county, and Seattle Center/KeyArena would have to make its case to the city council and then the city would make its overal case with the county.
The arena, and stadium stuff is simpler to figure out.

The health and Hunan services is much more complicated. There are services that the county has dropped that the city has picked up in our budget.

Until the bills are passed into law this is just talk.

Peter said...

"Seattle Center/KeyArena would have to make its case to the city council and then the city would make its overal case with the county."

you would think the city council would just have a vote, right? the keyarena plans are the CITY'S plans. i know the city would have to vote on the city portion(ticket taxes), but is it possible for the city and county to both take this up at the same time? dragging it out would just bring out all of the will in seattles imo. dow did say in his kjr interview that the "votes were there in the county council", and you said earlier that you could "count the city council votes on one hand."

Peter said...

i heard on SC that the house took the "publicly owned stadiums and arenas" part out of 2912? is that right? if it is, is it over? it’s gonna take 100% private funding to get a new team back? good luck getting someone to pay for ALL of a keyarena renovation. i guess the only way we get a team now is if ballmer or someone else pays for ALL OF AN BRAND NEW ARENA?

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