Saturday, June 19, 2010

Rep. Dave Reichert - CHICKEN!

Dave Reichert is a CHICKEN!

Cock a doodle do!
My dame has lost her shoe,
My master's lost his fiddlestick,
And knows not what to do.

wikipedia, The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1951, 2nd edn., 1997), p. 128.

We asked Rep. Dave Reichert and Democratic challenger Suzan DelBene whether they supported the move to make BP set up an escrow account, whether they approve of the six-month moratorium on offshore drilling, whether they want to see a permanent ban on offshore drilling on the West Coast and if they think the liability cap for oil producers should be raised.

Reichert, answering by e-mail through campaign spokesman Jeff Harvey, did not have a response to any of the questions.

"His feelings are we are still in the middle of the crisis, and have yet to determine or fully understand how this disaster occurred, how to stop it, how to fix the damage it has already caused, or how to prevent another disaster from happening in the future," Harvey wrote.

"Given that, before he answers a series of yes or no questions, he has some questions of his own that need to be answered."

Politics Northwest | Reichert has questions, not answers, on Gulf oil spill | Seattle Times Newspaper

While oil gushes out if a broken pipe for 60 days Dave "the CHICKEN" Reichert doesn't know if we should stop repeating the steps for 6 months that resulted in the worst unnatural disaster America has ever seen.

He has "questions" but, go ahead and keep on going!

CHICKEN!

17 comments:

Peter said...

Can someone on the radio like brock huard just say something like what he said, or does the radio station have to check it first to make sure he really does have a source? Would you say that the feedback from the county on the initiative was good? It was really good that dow`s spokesman and the county councilman they quoted seemed pretty upbeat and positive. If anything, the councilman cautioned against moving too fast.

Mr Baker said...

He is not a news reporter and that is not a news show. He is entertaining, and he can say all kinds of "what if" type things.
As long as he is not telling hurtful lies he can talk.

JAS said...

“If anything, the councilman cautioned against moving too fast.”

If you’re referring to the Bob Ferguson quote, he actually said that Nicastro should “get a proposal out quickly if they are serious about November.” The county council would have to approve an initiative for the ballot by the last Monday of July.

http://tinyurl.com/35s3rsz

We’ll see what (if anything) happens. You could always e-mail Brock and ask about his previous comments.

Mr Baker said...

JAS is correct.
That has to do with timing something to get on the county ballot. This is legislation, a government body has to propose it (county council in this case), and the authority approves it (the voters).

The only other way to get a Public Facilities District is for the state legislature (House, the Senate) to propose it and the authority (the governor) to approve it.
The question I have is, do they really want to have a public vote (even if it does not cost general fund tax payers), or do they want to go to the state legislature with a no general fund cost request for a PFD?
That's the how.

What also needs to be resolved is where (and who).

When people say things about an arena the question I always ask myself is "why are they telling me this, who benefits?"
this is true of any project that involves the public, follow the path of East Side light rail, or West Side for that matter.
West Side you have land investors that want to upzone so they can sell the same 1000 square foot home on 6 levels of vertical space. A single level home worth 300,000 is worth 2.4 m over the same air space (less construction costs, etc). That is who benefits here.
East Side land developers want to develop nearly vacant land into University Village shopping surrounded by upzone condos.
In both cases people with land and money want public investment to make their developments more valuable, and much sooner. Decades ago this was done with roads.

In the case of an arena, that is a destination to draw people to that can afford an NBA or NHL ticket (they have money) . They have money to shop on the East Side (you need a larger project for this), or they have money for a more expensive upzone condo within walking distance of this new arena.
Seattle Center is/was a 74 acre destination. It misses having 6000 people that can afford an NBA ticket 41 nights a year drawing people from the East side, and encouraging people to live within walking distance to it.

On the East Side it is a new development, on the West Side it is a redevelopment.
In either case government is involved as an indirect investor by transit, road improvement, permitting, etc. They offset the cost by imposing a B & O tax on a 350 million dollar business, and keeping the tax dollars at home.

Peter said...

regardless of whether brock's announcement was fact-checked or not, everyone has to admit it makes alot of sense. when nicastro's effort was reported, they did mention her "cohorts". i would be willing to bet that the "who" we are looking for are them. an arena is impossible without ownership groups interested, and since she included the NHL, she is probably counting on two different groups to help fund the arena and buy teams. all of what brock said may not be true, but if nicastro ame forward this early, i'd be willing to bet there are AT LEAST two local ownership groups for the NBA and NHL, especially since she included the NHL.

Peter said...

another way you could look at ferguson's quote is that the county does not want to put it to voters this fall because they are afraid it will fail if it is rushed. slowing it down lets them plan it out at the very least, or get it to the legislature where they may feel more comfortable. i don't really know, this is just a theory. it was also nice that dow's spokesman said he was interested, but most of us already knew that.

Peter said...

does anyone think an effort like nicastro's would be the kind of thing that is reported once, then fades away until we hear more? that seems to be sort of like the B2 thing, except there we never lesrned more. i know this is different because the county might me involved, but you would think the media would pick up more on it.(or will they when the county offically gets involved?)

Peter said...

does anyone think an effort like nicastro's would be the kind of thing that is reported once, then fades away until we hear more? that seems to be sort of like the B2 thing, except there we never lesrned more. i know this is different because the county might me involved, but you would think the media would pick up more on it.(or will they when the county offically gets involved?)

Peter said...

Sorry. For some reason it posted my last comment twice.

Mr Baker said...

The problem is that you don't know, Peter.
These ideas float around all the time, 20 years ago the Sonics made motions toward Bellevue, nothing happened there.
The population base has grown and Seattle does not have a lock on the market.

If I wrote every thing I was told was "almost" going to happen it would drive off competition from trying, thinking that somebody else has a plan further along. I do not hear a lot, but my job is to not fill 2 hours of air time like Brock, alternately I am not financially involved in any effort in any way.
A planned communication campaign for an effort like this would not start by leaking out to a radio talk-show host, and then go silent for 2 months.

What we have is somebody running a poll, and the poll driving premature public conversations. Maybe they were not getting the attention they thought they needed to get local government to lead in some way.
That still has not happened, not in public. In private lots of people are willing to tell you all kinds of supportive things, support, not the I am going to lead this kind of words.

Peter said...

i know i shouldn't be too optimistic yet. i guess we'll have to wait and see about brock's report. i don't know what way to think on that one yet. it just seems like there is so much info going around, and with everyone largly silent the last two years i figure somethings up. it's gotta be good that there are all these rumblings. i guess we'll have to wait and see what turns out, if anything.

Mr Baker said...

No matter what you hear, the thing that should make anybody hopeful are the survey results.
There is a market here. Things were so sour for so long that any survey like that shows that there is a light at the end of that tunnel.

Peter said...

Would an effort like nicastro`s be reported the way it was if it was legit? i remember reading about it on the stranger`s website and i might have read it on the seattlepi.com i don`t really remember. Was news about the effort printed in the paper in seattle? I didn`t read anything in the tacoma paper. I guess we don`t know anything for sure yet. There`s so much info out there and we can try to connect the dots, but that`s all speculation until we hear more.

JAS said...

You could always e-mail someone on the King County council asking if they know of anything moving forward. Here’s the e-mail address of the fellow who was quoted in that article:

bob.ferguson@kingcounty.gov

JAS said...

“Would an effort like nicastro`s be reported the way it was if it was legit? i remember reading about it on the stranger`s website and i might have read it on the seattlepi.com i don`t really remember.”

Yes, it was reported in the Stranger (I posted that link above) and the P-I website:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/205803.asp

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/205384.asp

Here’s KIRO radio reporting:

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=319603

Here’s Nicastro on with Softy:

http://tinyurl.com/26oxwwk

However, the B2 thing was also reported in all the papers and radio shows and nothing ever came of that. Maybe this will do better, maybe not.

Here’s one key quote from the KIRO story:

“She said right now, the funding formula is still rough and she doesn't expect a formal announcement until they can do more number crunching and connect with some key public officials.”

I’d actually be surprised if something happened this year, but we’ll see.

JAS said...

Sorry, those first three links were too long. Try them now:

http://tinyurl.com/2u58rkk

http://tinyurl.com/2bf6c33

http://tinyurl.com/35w6tjz

Mr Baker said...

That was the bottom line, there isn't an elected leader that is leading this in public.
It is not ready for that, though I think that leadership happens, clearly, at the county level.
They do not have a problem spending somebody else's money. That sounds like a joke until you look at the City of Seattle choking on this for 5 years. I know there are city council people that want, but that is not the same as lead.

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