Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Seattle Center: Be Part of The Next Fifty!

What will they celebrate, urban blight? The result of neglect, ignorance, coupled with elitest ideas of greed, sponging off the public for dead art forms?
And cotton candy.

Part of the email text below:

welcome to the next fifty
For six months during 2012, Seattle will explore, debate, display and define a global vision. Engaging leading innovators from around the world and within our community, our focus will be on the examination of the seven core areas where Seattle has demonstrated leadership:
2012 is the Fair's 50th Anniversary--a hallmark that calls for both celebration and contemplation. And a collective of passionate citizens are collaborating to, once again, bring together the global community as we pause to define our future.

For six months during 2012, Seattle will explore, debate, display and define a global vision. Engaging leading innovators from around the world and within our community, our focus will be on the examination of the seven core areas where Seattle has demonstrated leadership:

your ideas will be the foundation for this celebration
Your participation will help create this extraordinary celebration and the vision for our future. Go to www.thenextfifty.org and share your ideas, your observations, your dreams and your creativity. Your passionate support will enable us to use the learnings from the last fifty years and determine what will happen in THE NEXT FIFTY.

11 comments:

Peter said...

i wasn't trying to complain or anything when i said there might not be any teams available for long, just that with the pace teams are staying in their current cities, maybe it is a better idea to take the easy thing and go for the key redo. it seems like if the county took the lead, it could get done over the summer. am i wrong? i mean, the hotel people have already looked favorable on it, and the ballmer group is still in as of february. the only thing i would be worried about is whether the city would uphold the ticket taxes offer.

Mr Baker said...

I have no idea of what a timeline would be with either option right now.

Peter said...

can you post the link where griffin said the ballmer group wasn't worried about teams being available? i couldn't get it to work when you posted it last.

i don't know where all these rumors about ballmer buying vulcan sports comes from. as you said, it was pure bull$hit. why would people just post those rumors on SC without knowing something?

Mr Baker said...

People post all kinds of things.
Steve Ballmer really does like basketball, Paul Allen sits with him, sometimes Paul Allen and Bill Gates would go to Sonics games, sitting at the end behind the home basket and people would write stuff about Bill Gates buying the Sonics.
There has been a running rumor about Allen moving the Blazers to Seattle, or trading the Blazers for the Sonics, all wishful thinking.
Sometimes people go to basketball games just to watch the game.

I think that having Microsoft sponsor the Storm helps.

JAS said...

“can you post the link where griffin said the ballmer group wasn't worried about teams being available? i couldn't get it to work when you posted it last.”

Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/26rlk4g

JAS said...

“why would people just post those rumors on SC without knowing something?”

Eh, that’s the internet for you. Don’t believe everything you read.

Mr Baker said...

http://tinyurl.com/26rlk4g

Griffin also said that getting a team is the "least of our worries because teams are available." He explained to me that the group hasn't discussed this issue with the state legislature in quite some time and the group has not met to discuss the NBA interests in awhile.

JAS said...

Mr. Baker, why is it that the PFD bill sailed through the state legislature after all the other stadium proposals over the past 5 years didn’t?

Mr Baker said...

This is not a stadium proposal. The PFD has the power and authority to build a sports facility, but that is secondary. The PFD's intent is to build another convention facility, that is the primary reason that wanted this.
Getting the PFD to build an arena is a more complex issue than remodeling the Key. But I have been told that there is interest in exploring that possibility. They would need a few other things to fall into place, private money desire, a secondary public source (athlete tax), but the roadblocks are not too bad.

The hotel folks have been pushing for a bill for a few years, the short answer is that they had the State of Washington in court, this is a legal settlement.

Mr Baker said...

Section 8, pages 13 and 14, spell out what has to happen, and by when. Section 8, subsection (e) on page 14, "settles all claims" and says who was suing the state.
Had the bill not passed then the 54 million dollars the state already took in the past would have to be repaid.

Bill goes into effect in July of 2010. A PFD board needs to be formed by June 2011.
Between now and 2011 we will see what the pfd really wants to do. Do they partner, or do they slice off a tiny portion for KeyArena, I have no idea.
I know they can not act right away, the economy will delay a project, the current convention center board can not take action because the taxing authority happens when the new pfd is formed with a new board made up with appointees.
The flip side is that King County owns the air space above the metro busses that the convention center has alread paid a retainer on. The county could make 60 or 70 million when they sell the air space. The county will want that money sooner rather than later.
King County will take the lead on getting the pfd set up.
This bill was a priority of Dow Constantine.


Here is the law
http://tinyurl.com/2dypvny

Mr Baker said...

Here is a pretty good story on what slicing off part of the city's hotel sales tax credit would involve, and it notes how my desire to have a new arena/convention center at Seattle Center got shot down by the previous deputy mayor.
http://crosscut.com/blog/crosscut/18600/

A new convention center/arena in SoDo area would be a more likely location, if that were the way the PFD wanted to go.

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